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Joe Rogan Experience #1757 – Dr. Robert Malone, MD
Fact checked by Dan Patterson
Dr. Robert Malone is the inventor of the core mRNA vaccine technologies (including the idea of mRNA vaccines) and RNA transfection, Dr. Malone has extensive research and development experience in the areas of pre-clinical discovery research, clinical trials, vaccines, gene therapy, bio-defense, and immunology. He has over twenty years of management and leadership experience in academia, pharmaceutical and biotechnology industries, as well as in governmental and non-governmental organizations.
Dr. Malone is a specialist in clinical research, medical affairs, regulatory affairs, project management, proposal management (large grants and contracts), vaccines and biodefense. This includes writing, developing, reviewing and managing vaccine, bio-threat and biologics clinical trials and clinical development strategies. He has been involved in developing, designing, and providing oversight of approximately forty phase 1 clinical trials and twenty phase 2 clinical trials, as well as five phase 3 clinical trials. He has served as medical director/medical monitor on approximately forty phase 1 clinical trials, and on twenty phase 2 clinical trials, including those run at vaccine-focused Clinical Research Organizations.
Scientifically trained at UC Davis, UC San Diego, and at the Salk Institute Molecular Biology and Virology laboratories, Dr. Malone is an internationally recognized scientist (virology, immunology, molecular biology) and is known as one of the original inventors of mRNA vaccination and DNA Vaccination. His discoveries in mRNA non viral delivery systems are considered the key to the current COVID-19 vaccine strategies. Dr. Malone holds numerous fundamental domestic and foreign patents in the fields of gene delivery, delivery formulations, DNA vaccines and mRNA vaccines.
He received his medical training at Northwestern University (MD) and Harvard University (Clinical Research Post Graduate) medical school, and in Pathology at UC Davis.
Dr. Malone has close to 100 peer-reviewed publications and published abstracts and has over 11,477 citations of his peer reviewed publications, as verified by Google Scholar. His google scholar ranking is “outstanding” for impact factors. He has been an invited speaker at over 50 conferences, has chaired numerous conferences and he has sat on or served as chairperson on numerous NIAID and DoD study sections.
Visit his website to learn more! - rwmalonemd.com
Dr. Robert Malone’s extensive medical & research background
[9:00] Dr. Robert Malone was banned from twitter recently – December 2021
He was also banned from LinkedIn.
He is perhaps one of the most qualified people in the world to talk about vaccines and yet his voice has been silenced.
Virtually all the other qualified voices with a similar background have financial conflicts of interest – Dr. Malone doesn’t
Joe says, “They removed you for not going along with whatever the tech narrative is because tech clearly has a censorship agenda when it comes to COVID in terms of treatment in terms of the whether or not you're promoting what they would call vaccine hesitancy.”
Malone asks, “If it's not okay for me to be part of the conversation even though I'm pointing out scientific facts that may be inconvenient then who is?”
People are starting to distance themselves from Malone and the media is labeling him “crazy” without any facts to back it up
[14:00] Dr. Malone’s first ban from LinkedIn
Malone says it’s not big tech coming down with the censorship, rather, “It's the horizontal integration across all major industries now under the control of common funds. All of these industries, the harmonization of the tech censorship the interests of pharma, big media etc., and governments all being harmonized in their messaging globally. The same playbook is going on every continent.”
This whole fire started with his podcast with Dr. Brett Weinstein and Steve Kirsh
Find that podcast here:
LinkedIn didn’t have the talent to fact check him so they let him back on.
Malone references a “fantastic” video from the Canadian COVID Care Alliance Group that summarizes the manipulation, misinterpretation associated with the pfizer vaccines and their clinical trials.
Watch that video: https://rumble.com/vqx3kb-the
He also tweeted about the World Economic Forum’s roadmap to managing us.
Here’s the latest archive of his twitter feed: https://archive.fo/6pV86
How Dr. Malone was thrown into the spotlight
[20:00] Dr. Malone’s COVID origin story
He IS vaccinated and has had COVID twice (once before the vaccine, once after).
Malone states: “There's a CIA agent that I've co-published with in the past named Michael Callahan. He was in Wuhan in the fourth quarter of 2019 he called me from Wuhan on January 4th I was currently managing a team that was focusing on drug discovery for organophosphate poisoning ergo nerve agents for DTRA, defense threat reduction agency, involving high-performing computing and biorobot screening… he told me Robert you got to get your team spun up because we got a problem with this new virus.”
Malone got COVID in February 2020 and thought he was going to die but he took famotidine (Pepcid) which helped him
[23:00] Why does the FDA create so many roadblocks with hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin trials?
Malone says that it is well documented and that there are good modeling studies that show that probably half a million excess deaths have happened in the U.S.through the intentional blockade of early treatment by the U.S. government.
Here’s a source that he may be referencing: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30464-8/fulltext
That early treatment was the combination of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.
Malone outlines the role of Rick Bright and Janet Woodcock in blocking the use of these drugs in the treatment of COVID.
Dr. Vladimir Zev Zelenko exposed Rick Bright and Janet Woodcock for their role in sabotaging these treatment options by only making them available for use in hospitals (which is too late).
Dr. Rick Bright admits on video that he blocked the treatment and says there was no evidence that Hydroxychloroquine had efficacy, but Dr. Malone says that this was blatantly false.
There was an extensive history of Hydroxychloroquine being used at this time and Dr. Bright and the government likely had knowledge about it’s efficacy and history.
If you recall, President Trump wanted Americans to have access to these drugs, and so did Dr. Zelenko.
Dr. Rick Bright currently works at The Rockefeller Foundation
[29:30] Both Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin are on the who list of essential medicines they have been administered for millions and millions of doses they're among the safest medicines we know (when administered within this acceptable window pharmaceutical window)
So why would Merck come out and say that ivermectin aren’t safe?
Malone and Rogan discuss how there was a concerted effort to kill ivermectin as a treatment option because it’s a generic drug and there’s not a lot of money to be made from it
Ivermectin is fairly cheap because it’s easy to make.
You can get Ivermectin in bulk at less than a penny per dose.
Joe asks if chloroquine worked or showed efficacy on the original SARS, is it safe to assume without adequate tests that hydroxychloroquine would work on COVID-19?
Dr. Malone responds by saying that it's the decision that was made by the Chinese government, that’s what they were using: hydroxychloroquine.
He received the original Chinese protocols which were being used effectively.
[32:40] Uttar Predash effectively treated COVID but won’t disclose how.
Dr. Malone says that what we do know is that in Uttar Predash (same size population as the United States) COVID was tearing through the population.
The decision was made to deploy early treatments there as packages widely throughout the providence in coordination with the U.S. and the WHO.
Ivermectin is rumored to be in those packages which are still in Uttar Predash
Biden actually met with a leader there and there was an explicit decision (made immediately afterwards) not to reveal what was in those packages.
Dr. Malone says that everyone should draw their own conclusions! These are just the facts…
Natural Immunity Data
[36:30] Dr. Malone says that “What we do know for sure well documented if you've got prior COVID and natural immunity you you have a higher risk of adverse events from the jab now.”
Here’s a BMJ article with multiple references to support this claim: https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2101
“A large study in the UK32 and another that surveyed people internationally33 found that people with a history of SARS-CoV-2 infection experienced greater rates of side effects after vaccination.” (BMJ)
“Other studies suggest that a two dose regimen may be counterproductive.” (BMJ)
Dr. Malone took two doses of moderna with the second dose I developed stage three hypertension with systolic blood pressure of up to 230
He says he is lucky to be alive and experienced irregularities of heartbeat, incredible, hypertension, pot syndrome, narcolepsy, and restless leg syndrome.
Rogan and Malone talk about how it’s well known that people who have just recovered from COVID should not get vaccinated.
Rogan mentions this Israel study: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1
This study showed that natural immunity is 13X more effective than vaccines in protecting individuals.
Dr. Malone says that the 13X more effective in preventing hospitalized COVID but it’s more like 27X better at protecting against developing the disease. Remember infection ≠ developing the disease
The CDC came out against this with their own study which was much less rigorous
[40:00] There’s over 140 studies showing that natural immunity (having recovered from COVID) is superior.
Here’s a long list of those studies: https://www.thewellnessway.com/natural-immunity-140-studies-of-validation/
Trusted News Initiative & The Great Barrington Declaration
[42:00] “What we are experiencing is a coordinated media warfare the level of which we have never seen before, and I and my peers, who are experienced in multiple outbreaks, have never seen this level of coordinated propaganda.”
Rogan wonders if this is because this pandemic coincides with the rise of social media which wasn’t around during previous pandemics.
They discuss the Trusted News Initiative which was set up by BBC to help combat the spread of harmful vaccine disinformation
It ties together big tech and big media to protect our democratic voting system
It surveys all information about elections to prevent the intrusion of foreign meddling in the democratic process.
Shortly after it was created, the pharmaceutical industry realized this could be used to address a particular devil challenge – the pejorative label “anti-vaxxer”
This term is now used to dismiss anyone who has ANY concerns over vaccine safety.
[47:40] If you want to understand this whole thing, you have to understand the Trusted News Initiative which set out to tackle disinformation about elections and then moved on to disinformation about COVID.
Check out Dr Robert Malones’ Substack where he talks about this more in depth: https://substack.com/profile/49176289-robert-w-malone-md-ms?sort=top
Dr. Malone says: ”Bobby Kennedy makes the point that the first real example of cancel culture that we can track is Tony Fauci canceling the esteemed virologist Peter Duisberg because he was raising questions about the origin of HIV and its role in the disease called AIDS.”
[51:00] The Great Barrington Declaration: https://gbdeclaration.org
Three esteemed high-profile academic epidemiologists came together and did a comprehensive analysis about everything that was known about lockdowns and their impacts during infectious disease outbreaks
Dr. Sunetra Gupta – Oxford University
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya – Stanford University
Dr. Martin Kulldorff –Harvard University
It stated that these lockdowns were going to do more harm than help.
Fauci canceled them saying that they were going to cause millions of deaths
Israel has a deal with Pfizer so they are on round 4 of their vaccine. But in the surrounding areas like Palestine, there is significantly less COVID mortality.
This can be easily viewed on worldometer
Infection rate isn’t important because testing rates and testing density can change the infection rate.
Vaccines & Adverse Events
[58:00] The VAERS-system (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System)
It’s not the best system, but it’s the best we have and if the population is large enough, the data will correct itself.
Hospitals are incentivized to report deaths as COVID deaths
Since hospitals test every patient, if a patient dies from a gunshot wound but tested positive for COVID, then the hospital can declare it as a COVID death
[1:05:50] The case of Maddie de Garay: https://trialsitenews.com/mother-of-maddie-de-garay-speaks-out-about-her-13-year-old-daughters-life-altering-injuries-from-pfizers-covid-vaccine/
Maddie was 1 of 1000 subjects in a Pfizer trial. She was injured by the vaccine, had a seizure, was wheelchair bound with a nasal gastric tube.
They took her out of the study for gastric distress AKA a stomach ache and didn’t report any of her other conditions
Big Pharma is responsible for the data and whether it is contaminated or not.
The FDA has the job of figuring out what tricks pharma pulls to fix the studies in their favor.
[1:13:20] Thomson Reuters is tied to Pfizer and controls the fact-checking on Twitter
Physicians like Kirk Milhoan and Peter McCullough are some of the most qualified people.
Kirk runs a food bank. He was treating patients by using ivermectin the so-called horse drug
The same hospital that went after Kirk in Hawaii went after Dr. Malone
Hospitals all over the world are incentivised to treat COVID patients
[1:21:30] Malone observes that early treatment keeps people out of the hospital and that hospitals have a financial incentives to discourage early treatment
Hospitals also have death incentives
Hospitals and hospital-based physicians are the ones going after these physicians who are using early treatment options.
Historically, myocarditis has an incidence of death of about 27% (or even higher as seen here) but now we’re being told it’s only mild when its a side-effect of the vaccine
Supposedly, 1 in 1000 people have adverse events to the vaccine.
Myocarditis that requires hospitalization is 1 in 2700 in boys.
[1:27:00] There’s a huge number of alternations in menstrual cycles being found as women as a result of the vaccine.
Dr. Malone explains that we learned early on from Pfizer’s data package.
The package was missing reproductive toxicology and other important information that are always included.
Lipid RNA complexes inside the vaccine are sent to the ovaries and into our bone marrow at a very high rate.
Dr. Malone talks about how Hasidic Jewish Rabis monitor the menstrual cycle of the women in their community
Reproductive health is really important to their community.
Rabis decided that children should not be vaccinated because of this. Dr. Malone went to Rabbinical Court in New York to talk with Rabis.
To be fair, COVID itself also can also affect reproductive health
There is a clear issue with autoimmune issues arising after vaccination.
Blood clotting, brain fog, and the clamping of blood vessels are all a problem with BOTH getting COVID and getting the vaccine
[1:41:00] Why Pharmaceutical companies need to prove that their spike proteins are safe.
The question is if the spike protein made in our body from the virus is the same as the spike protein made by the vaccine.
Some people have responses to the vaccine and some don’t
The common factor might be high blood sugar levels. Those with high blood sugar levels suffer more from COVID and the vaccine
Vaccines may suppress your body’s T-cells. T-cells ensure that viruses don’t cause harm in your body, even if they’re present.
[1:56:00] Vaccines don’t seem to be effective against these variants
The window of efficacy seems to keep shrinking – vaccines have weaning efficacy over time
There are many confounding variables with vaccines. For example, fully vaccinated people might engage in more risky behavior like clubbing.
Data from the netherlands is showing that getting multiple jabs will do more harm than good since 85.9% are fully vaccinated: https://coronadashboard.government.nl/landelijk/vaccinaties
[2:11:00] Omicron is similar to less-pathogenic influenza viruses because it infects the upper airway
It’s milder and more contagious than Delta.
Omicron is more of a sore throat and runny nose.
The mortality of Omicron is remarkably low
Learn more about South African data here:
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/urgent-stunning-data-from-south-africa/comments
South Africa is highly vaccinated, so it’s a good case study
The reproductive coefficient of Omicron is 7 - 10 which is higher than the other variants and about the level of measles.
It means you’ll give it to 7 - 10 people on average
[2:21:30] Why our government is out of control when it comes to COVID
Our government has ignored bio-ethics, including the Nuremberg code, and mandating experimental vaccines is illegal – but they don’t care.
Hospital cases are probably Delta cases right now
[2:30:00] Monoclonal antibodies for Delta are being pulled from hospitals because the government expected most of the cases to be from Omicron
But Delta cannot be treated with monoclonal antibodies for omicron
Dr. Malone thinks that the government may have done this in order to extend their emergency use authorization
Read more about how Fauci and the head of the NIH intentionally smeared anyone who questioned the effectiveness of lockdowns: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10324873/Emails-reveal-Fauci-head-NIH-colluded-try-smear-experts-called-end-lockdowns.html
[2:38:00] What is Mass Formation Psychosis?
It’s a term coined by Mattias Desmet who studied what social forces shaped Nazi Germany
Dr. Malone explains, “When you have a society that has become decoupled from each other, and has free-floating anxiety and a sense that things don’t make sense. We can’t understand it. And then their attention gets focused, by a leader or a series of events, on one small point, just like hypnosis. They literally become hypnotized and can be led anywhere. And one of the aspects of that phenomena is the people that they identify as their leaders, the ones typically that come in and say “you have this pain and I can solve it for you. I and I alone can fix this problem for you.” They will follow this person through hell. It doesn’t matter whether they lie to them. The data are irrelevant. And, furthermore, anybody who questions that narrative is to be immediately attacked. They are the other. This is central to mass formation psychosis.”
This is what happened to us during COVID. This is what we are experiencing.
The way to heal is through recreating social bonds and understanding the importance of community
[2:48:00] Above all, Dr. Malone wants to uphold free speech and stop the vaccination of children.
Rogan and Malone agree that everybody loses if we all need a social credit system to show our vaccination status just to go out to eat.
Dr. Malone’s organization that focuses on the health of children, lockdowns, vaccines, and more: https://unityprojectonline.com
“We are raising a generation of children that have been blocked from their ability, because their brains are developing extremely rapidly at this age, from their ability for their brains to assimilate the information necessary for them to become functional citizens, and parents. We are destroying it without a second thought. And the damage is going to last for generations. And, as if that’s not bad enough, we are allowing the state to insert itself into the family and make decisions by mandating vaccination.”
“We are setting up a situation in which children are going to see peers who have been vaccine-damaged as a consequence of the policies that their teachers and government have forced on them.”
[2:56:20] Why is the vaccine uniquely dangerous to children?
Ultimately, we’re seeing adverse effects in kids, but it’s probably happening as much in adults.
But there’s financial incentives, biases, to NOT report these things.
We have to ask if it is vaccine? Is it COVID? Maybe a combination of both?
Full Transcript: https://nehls.house.gov/posts/joe-rogan-experience-1757-dr-robert-malone-md-full-transcript
Summary:
Cliff Notes Via Twitter: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1477032151493267460.html
By Dan Patterson (My NoseToTail.org employee)